Planetside 2 Ingame Logo

[Xondio]

Hallo DRUCKWELLE,

das Planetside 2 Team hatte schon länger den Wunsch unseren DW-Skull als Logo in Planetside 2 als Outfit-Logo zu bekommen.
Bisher sprachen einige Punkte dagegen den Skull im DBC-PlayerStudio einzureichen:

1. DBC wird die Rechte an dem Bild/Logo bekommen.
2. Jeder kann sich im Ingame-Shop das Logo kaufen. (und wenn man ehrlich ist, der Skull ist so cool den würden etliche Spieler haben wollen)
3. Wir wissen nicht was DBC mit dem Logo noch anstellen will.

Auf der Burg haben wir @mad.gobbo mit Talisker an unseren Tisch gelockt und ihm den Entwurf und die Idee unterbreitet. Seine Aussage "Er sei nicht der richtige Ansprechpartner" haben wir erstmal ignoriert und nachgeschenkt. Nach dieser kleinen Runde war unser vorgehen klar: Logo verfremden und unseren TAG mit aufnehmen, so das kein anderes Outfit das Logo haben will und wenn doch sie Werbung für uns machen ...

Gobo meinte dann noch wir müssen das mit der Kreativ-Abteilung bzw. Vorstand absprechen, was wir hier mit tuen wollen.

Es gab mehrer Designs, mal mit mal ohne Kreis, weiß schwarz und das was es letztendlich in einem Internen Vote vom Planetside 2 Team ausgewählt wurde. Dafür würden wir uns jetzt gerne das OK abholen um es als PlayerStudio Item einzureichen.

Hier ist das gute Stück, das danke dem @DerUnf4ssbare so schnell Form angenommen hat:

Der Skull ist um 20° geneigt und halbiert, dazu sind ein die "Fractures" im Skull leicht geändert worden.
Der Farbverlauf spiegelt die Vanu-Farben wieder, und ist somit auf jeder Camo gut zu sehen.

 

Hier der Link zum Player-Studio:
https://www.planetside2.com/player-studio

Und hier gehts zum Forum:
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/playerstudio/index.php?categories/player-studio.9/

EDIT:

DBC gibt 40% von den Einahmen an den erstelle ab, das würden wir DRUCKWELLE zur Verfügung stellen wollen, auch wenn da nicht all zu viel bei rum kommen wird... bei einem Preis von 200 - 399 DB-Cash ( ca 1,80 - 3,60€)

Bearbeitet 20. Juli 2017 von Xondio

[Kasuma]

Gute Idee, guter Ansatz, Logo sieht schick aus 

aber:

der Tag ist sehr einfach vom Logo zu trennen. Natürlich bleibt dann nur ein ziemlich verkrüppelter halber Skull übrig, aber ich weiß nicht, in wie weit wir diesen Punkt noch mal strapazieren sollten.

Just my 2 cents - abwarten, was der Rest / Vorstand hierzu sagt.

[RogerMalone]

Danke fürs Einstellen Xondio 

[Mirage]

Das sich der Tag vom Logo einfach trennen lässt, ja ist erst einmal irrelevant. Wenn man unser Logo will, kann man sich das auch einfach von unserer Homepage, YouTube, Facebook oder wo auch immer besorgen. Ich finde das Logo passend zum Spiel, gefällt mir. Auf den ersten Blick sehe ich jetzt nur ein geringes Risiko, dass das nach hinten losgehen kann. Aber es ist ja nun sicher auch so, dass man das Logo nach deren AGBs/Terms nicht einfach weiterverarbeiten/kopieren o.ä. darf? Gibt es da genauere Details zu den Rechten/Lizenz? Und wie handhaben es denn andere Outfits? Laufen wir Gefahr, dass Leute damit rumlaufen, Mist bauen und als DRUCKWELLE verkannt werden?

[Nuwien]

Andere Outfits: wir sind so ziemlich der letzte namhafte Clan auf Miller welcher noch kein eigenes Outfit-Logo hat. Allerdings will ich nicht ausschließen das die Situation bei uns eine andere ist (sprich dort jeweils ein komplett neues Logo entworfen wurde, z.b weil es den Clan nur in ps2 gibt)

Das Risiko des Missbrauch ist vorhanden, jedoch sehe ich es als gering an. Zwar sieht man das Logo auch auf dem killscreen (also z.b nach nem Team kill) aber dann sieht man auch in Text die reale Outfit-Zugehörigkeit.

Allein an Hand des Logos macht kein normaler Mensch sowas fest. Jeder kann sich jedes Logo kaufen und das ist auch bekannt.

Wo das Outfit Logo wirklich nen Unterschied macht, ist beim base capture. Wenn wir ne base capped erscheint dort auch dann das Outfit Logo an prominenter Stelle.

Am Ende muss einer mit unserem Logo sehr viel griefen wenn er die positive Wirkung der base-cap Logos aufheben will.

[Xondio]

Am 21.7.2017 um 22:35 schrieb Mirage:

Aber es ist ja nun sicher auch so, dass man das Logo nach deren AGBs/Terms nicht einfach weiterverarbeiten/kopieren o.ä. darf? Gibt es da genauere Details zu den Rechten/Lizenz?

Ich hab lange gesucht um was entsprechendes zu finden, in den Terms of Service Punkt 9 Submissions ist beschreiben was DBC mit den Inhalten macht welche sie bekommen.

https://www.daybreakgames.com/terms-of-service?locale=en_US#section8

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Ich werde das heute oder morgen mal mit nem Anwalt durchgehen

Bearbeitet 23. Juli 2017 von Xondio

[Xondio]

Nachdem ich das alles mal mit meiner Freundin durch gekaut habe, sieht das ganze etwas klarer (für mich) aus.
Day Break Games bekommt sämtliche rechte an dem Logo, darf es vervielfältigen und weiter lizenzieren (ESL o.ä.) ohne das wir davon Monetär profitieren und wir auch nicht gefragt werden müssen.

Allerdings verbietet sich DBG auch das Teile aus ihren Spielen von dritten verwendet werden. Also darf das keiner einfach so Kopieren und irgendwo verwenden ohne das DBG oder wir da zugestimmt hätten.
Theoretisch könnte DBG aber T-Shirts mit dem Logo drucken und diese Verkaufen, nur als beispiel. 

Was sich nach dieser Durchsicht als nicht möglich darstellt ist: das sie (DBG) das Logo zurückentwickeln zu unserem Skull und sie diesen dann verwenden. 

Das alles ohne Gewähr, es ist nicht ihr Fachgebiet. Wenn das näher geprüft werden muss kann sie inoffiziell bei einem Medien-Anwalt nachfragen. Aber ich denke soweit muss es gar nicht kommen oder @Mirage ? (Wenn das ganz genau geprüft werden soll müsste der Verein einen Auftrag vergeben, damit die Aussage dann auch belastbar ist.)

[Mirage]

Das entspricht auch meinen Annahmen. Ich sehe es wie gesagt nicht kritisch in Verbindung mit dem Tag wie oben. Also legt los!

[Nuwien]

D.h Party???

[Mirage]

Party!

[RogerMalone]

[Xondio]

Juhu vielen dank, dann ran an den Feinschliff und den Submission Marathon ...

[Iceman2]

Party!

[DerUnf4ssbare]

Komme vermutlich erst Fr. dazu.

[SirDikkmobs]

und wie läuft es?

[Ratman_Flo]

Hallo PS2-Druckies, ich hoffe ja ihr macht mal ein Bild mit allen aktiven Member des DRUCKWELLE-Outfit (so heißt doch ein Clan/eine Gilde in dem Spiel?) im neuen DRUCKWELLE-Outfit  wenn die Urlaubszeit vorbei ist... Gute Jagd euch allen...

[SirDikkmobs]

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[Steppi]

Am 8.8.2017 um 01:34 schrieb Ratman_Flo:

Hallo PS2-Druckies, ich hoffe ja ihr macht mal ein Bild mit allen aktiven Member des DRUCKWELLE-Outfit (so heißt doch ein Clan/eine Gilde in dem Spiel?) im neuen DRUCKWELLE-Outfit  wenn die Urlaubszeit vorbei ist... Gute Jagd euch allen...

wanna see this!

[SirDikkmobs]

ich würde es gerne such sehen aber eigentlich geht es hier um das ingame ps2 logo

[SirDikkmobs]

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